synchopepper Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 I am trying to upload a picture to use as an Avatar from my computer. The file in question is a *.JPG file of about 52k. While the avatar upload page states that the file needs to be no larger than 25k the feature to adjust the size is turned on. When I attempt to upload the return error states that the file is in the wrong format. What am I doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchopepper Posted June 7, 2004 Author Share Posted June 7, 2004 As you can see I was able to resolve the problem. It was the original size that caused the problem. After shrinking the pix to 24k I had no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchopepper Posted June 8, 2004 Author Share Posted June 8, 2004 Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to process a picture for use as an Avatar without losing all detail? I tried sharpening after reduction but I think the results are worse than if I had left it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 (edited) Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to process a picture for use as an Avatar without losing all detail? Detail = information. Smaller file size = less information. I think you can see where this is leading. While there are techniques for selecting which information to lose, you would still have to lose something. And the more complex the image, -- e.g., with small patterns, or shadings of both lightness and color, -- the more obvious the loss will be. I tried sharpening after reduction but I think the results are worse than if I had left it alone. Probably. All such "enhancement" functions emphasize one kind of detail at the expense of another. In particular, if "sharpen" is intended to reduce blurring, but there is no blurring to reduce, then whatever it does will not be an improvement. If you want to provide an image separately, it can include more detail -- almost 5 times as much as the avatar, -- but the avatar is not intended as a place to display detailed images. So you may want to choose a different image for your avatar... one that doesn't require great detail for its effect. Edited to say: I think I misunderstood your problem. I just downloaded a copy of your avatar and viewed in my photo editor, and it seems to have plenty of detail. I think the problem is that the space on the screen where the browser displays your avatar doesn't have enough pixels to resolve such fine detail. Edited June 8, 2004 by JimLucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boney Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to process a picture for use as an Avatar without losing all detail? I tried sharpening after reduction but I think the results are worse than if I had left it alone. You can try cropping in a bit closer. Editing it to 100 pixels high may look better than letting the browser's software scale it. How's this look: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchopepper Posted June 9, 2004 Author Share Posted June 9, 2004 Thanks to Boney for the sensible suggestions that I crop in the image. After standing on a ladder with mosquitoes buzzing my head to take the picture with a nice background I was loath to crop it out. As there is no magic resolution enhancement trick for low res images in tiny windows I will bite the bullet and crop, as it is better to have a recognizable image with no background than to have no recognizable image at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boney Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 (edited) As there is no magic resolution enhancement trick for low res images in tiny windows Did you try rescaling it to 100 pixels high? In my browser, the rescaled version in this message looks better than the one displayed as your avatar. Browsers use very simple rescaling algorithms, so if you rescale it with a graphic editing program first, it'll look better than letting the browser scale it down. It does mean that people can't open your avatar in a new window and see it full size, but you could put the full (uncropped, even) picture in your profile. Oops, I meant 64 pixels high (as below). Edited June 10, 2004 by Boney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchopepper Posted June 14, 2004 Author Share Posted June 14, 2004 I thought I would pull a fast one and lift Boney's sample enhancement and save myself any more fooling around. Alas the enhanced BMP is now over the size limit and was rejected (so much for the easy way). When I get a chance I will do some more tweaking myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henk van Aalten Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Alas the enhanced BMP is now over the size limit and was rejected (so much for the easy way). Never use the .BMP format, but .JPG or .GIF instead. The BMP format has about ten times the size of the .GIF or .JPG format at the same quality level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchopepper Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 After maximum cropping and reducing in JPG format to just under the 25k limit I have revised my Avatar. The results are better - as good as it will get I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henk van Aalten Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Try this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boney Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Try this one. They can only be 64 pixels high, yours is 80. (To use any little picture people post here, synchopepper, just right-click and "save as.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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