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#1 Hereward

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 09:18 AM

My John Connor Rebuild Anglo has the usual round hole on either metal end-plate for the maker's name but they are both blank and just empty holes. Is this usual and/or a problem? I don't want to mess with this and cover them (by making a label)  unless it's thought necessary. However, the maker's name doesn't appear anywhere that I can find and that may mean in years to come, when it gets passed on, no-one may remember who made it.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:45 AM

You could write it in pencil inside somewhere.

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 12:51 PM

My ‘Shire’ Anglo is identified by stamping ?/ engraving?/ etching ? In the space on the left hand grill which mirrors the position of the air button on the right hand grill.

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:09 PM

Is the 'Shire' by Connor? I have seen his own models named down the middle as it were and I suppose that may be what you refer to.

 

Edited because I now see it is another maker.


Edited by Hereward, 21 February 2018 - 01:12 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:22 PM

No connection. The history of Shire Concertinas is well documented on this website.

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:52 PM

Do you know the original manufacturer? If not then post photos of the end plates and if you can, the action pivot arrangements, these things can usually be worked out be the combined experience of the many here.

 

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:52 PM

Mine, which is a standard model Connor anglo in C/G, has 'CONNOR' marked between the top and middle row of buttons on both ends. 



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:06 PM

Do you know the original manufacturer? If not then post photos of the end plates and if you can, the action pivot arrangements, these things can usually be worked out be the combined experience of the many here.

 

Dave

The whole instrument was built by Connor except for the reed pans and reeds which are Wheatstone. I don't know anything else about it.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:34 PM

As far as I know, Connor rebuild models are produced by John Connor in collaboration with Barleycorn(Chris Alger) using Wheatstone or Lachenal reeds.

Mine is built by Connor (including reedpan) with old Lachenal reeds and has no makers name outside. Inside of the instrument there is a stamp of Barleycorn.



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:58 AM

As far as I know, Connor rebuild models are produced by John Connor in collaboration with Barleycorn(Chris Alger) using Wheatstone or Lachenal reeds.

Mine is built by Connor (including reedpan) with old Lachenal reeds and has no makers name outside. Inside of the instrument there is a stamp of Barleycorn.

Thank you. So it sounds to me that mine is similar to yours. John Connor is now retired.



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 07:10 AM

 

Do you know the original manufacturer? If not then post photos of the end plates and if you can, the action pivot arrangements, these things can usually be worked out be the combined experience of the many here.

 

Dave

The whole instrument was built by Connor except for the reed pans and reeds which are Wheatstone. I don't know anything else about it.

 

 

I Seem to remember, and I am fairly certain about this that these instruments were known a 'Phoenix' instruments, rising out of the ashes and all that.  Nothing to do with a certain H Potter...

 

Dave



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 07:30 AM

 

 

Do you know the original manufacturer? If not then post photos of the end plates and if you can, the action pivot arrangements, these things can usually be worked out be the combined experience of the many here.

 

Dave

The whole instrument was built by Connor except for the reed pans and reeds which are Wheatstone. I don't know anything else about it.

 

 

I Seem to remember, and I am fairly certain about this that these instruments were known a 'Phoenix' instruments, rising out of the ashes and all that.  Nothing to do with a certain H Potter...

 

Dave

 

I think that is Wakker Phoenix. Collaboration work by Wim Wakker and Barleycorn. I think Connor rebuild do not have such name...



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 07:49 AM

That is a shame. Call me a romantic but 'Phoenix' sounds better than 'no name at all'.



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:20 PM

my conner has conner stamped in the ends and a brass label on the hand rail that says Barleycorn Concertina.  I think Chris Alger's name is on that plate as well, but I don't have the instrument with me to check.



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Posted 09 March 2018 - 03:49 AM

my conner has conner stamped in the ends and a brass label on the hand rail that says Barleycorn Concertina.  I think Chris Alger's name is on that plate as well, but I don't have the instrument with me to check.

It is certainly interesting that your instrument features this because none of the others I have heard tell of do.



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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:19 PM

Yes, the brass plate exists.  If I were smart enough I'd attach a picture, but I don't know how.   I do have the concertina in front of me right now.  It is an older one of his. The end plates look more detailed than the newer ones I have seen.  I got it used from Chris Alger when its owner moved up to her Dipper.  That was in the early 90's or maybe even the late 80s.  And it is now my second concertina as I have moved up to a Dipper as well for daily play.  The plate is brass, but only has the word Barleycorn, not Chris Alger's name as I first thought.  It is funny how memory works.  The imprint CONNER runs along the rows above the c row.  It does not have a hole for a nameplate.  The original owner wrote her name and "stolen from" inside, but you have to take it apart to see the details.  When I emailed Chris Alger regarding this concertina last year he not only remembered seeing that writing, but remembered the owner's name and where she moved to as an adult.  It is an interestingly small world.  I got it before hybrids were a thing so I was fortunate to learn to play on a concertina reeded instrument.






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