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Theme Of The Month, Dec 2013: Holiday Tunes!


Jim Besser

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Interesting about the Gm. I've always played it in Am, which is the only key in which I've seen it published (EFDSS small books) and, if I remember correctly, the key used in the NY Revels the many years I was a member.

Ahh, yes. We had this conversation in your apartment when I visited Denmark in October.

 

Which I should have remembered, but when I replied I was rushing to pack for a 1000 km journey, and that meeting was outside my narrow focus. :o It was great to see you, though. :)

 

 

I learned it in G minor from Old Cecil, himself. Here's a page from his "Sword Dances of Northern EnglandSongs & Dance Airs Book II" (1912).

 

As far as I know, except for the scrap of paper Buckley had it scribbled down on, this is the tune's first appearance on paper. I think it is reasonable (but not certain) that Sharp notated it in G minor (1912) because Buckley notated it in G minor (1857) and that Buckley notated it in G minor because Robinson played it in G minor (1857) and that Robinson played it in G minor because the Horn Dance musicians of his youth played it in G minor (late 1700s).

Sounds reasonable to me. And it reminds me that back in those days (late 1700s) there was probably a much higher proportion of the people -- and not just "tutored" ones -- with accurate memories for absolute pitch.

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It was great to see you, though. :)

Indeed. And hello from Marie Newman and Nancy Goody whom I saw this evening and mentioned our meeting. Neither is still Morris Dancing (nor married to the same people they were 25 years ago).

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Interesting about the Gm. I've always played it in Am, which is the only key in which I've seen it published (EFDSS small books) and, if I remember correctly, the key used in the NY Revels the many years I was a member.

 

I learned it in G minor from Old Cecil, himself. Here's a page from his "Sword Dances of Northern EnglandSongs & Dance Airs Book II" (1912).

 

As far as I know, except for the scrap of paper Buckley had it scribbled down on, this is the tune's first appearance on paper. I think it is reasonable (but not certain) that Sharp notated it in G minor (1912) because Buckley notated it in G minor (1857) and that Buckley notated it in G minor because Robinson played it in G minor (1857) and that Robinson played it in G minor because the Horn Dance musicians of his youth played it in G minor (late 1700s).

Sounds reasonable to me...

 

Jim... Are you OK? :ph34r:

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Tis Winter Now...

TisWinterNowECgeordie.mp3

Just two verses. This is the tune, 'The Water Is Wide,' but the words in mind this time (didn't sing them) are the ones by Samuel Longfellow (brother of Henry, the famous poet).
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/t/i/tiswintr.htm

 

EDIT:

A note.... I think this adaptation, using 'The Water Is Wide' (O Waly, Waly) is actually of my own doing... I can't exactly remember! Because the tune as given on the site about Samuel Longfellow's lyrics is not exactly that. His words are set to 'Danby,' which is very similar. If it's all one and the same, somehow, historically -- I'm sorry but I just don't know!

 

I found this a few years ago, and I think I simply started using the folk song tune because it was similar.

 

Another edit:

Here's another site with the words, and a better recording of Danby (which I didn't use, apparently...).

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Soon I hope to get around to doing something fresh, but for now here's another holiday track I did for my siblings in years past, this one in 2009. It's really slower than I prefer for a joyful song, a bit long for just listening, and somewhat uneven in both balance and synchronization, but I think not too bad for doing 6 tracks in one afternoon on an old computer, in my living room, and without editing. B)

When I learned this years ago, I was told it was traditional. Some quick research today tells me it was composed by Alix Herrmann, daughter of Lani Herrmann, who has been active in folk music on both coasts of America. (Jim B., did you know her when she was in the DC area?) And it's become a widespread standard, at least in where "folk" like to sing together. :)

New Year's Round


Order of entry: low D whistle, tenor-treble English concertina (there's the relevance), high D whistle, my voice, my voice again.

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Soon I hope to get around to doing something fresh, but for now here's another holiday track I did for my siblings in years past, this one in 2009. It's really slower than I prefer for a joyful song, a bit long for just listening, and somewhat uneven in both balance and synchronization, but I think not too bad for doing 6 tracks in one afternoon on an old computer, in my living room, and without editing. B)

 

When I learned this years ago, I was told it was traditional. Some quick research today tells me it was composed by Alix Herrmann, daughter of Lani Herrmann, who has been active in folk music on both coasts of America. (Jim B., did you know her when she was in the DC area?) And it's become a widespread standard, at least in where "folk" like to sing together. :)

 

New Year's Round

 

Order of entry: low D whistle, tenor-treble English concertina (there's the relevance), high D whistle, my voice, my voice again.

 

 

Nice.

 

Is Alix related to Joe?

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Will (wayman) started a new Topic to post this contribution, but it certainly fits here.

 

Don't miss it! :)

 

And now there are two more holiday pieces that have been given their own threads instead of being added to this one.

 

Stille Nacht (Silent Night)

 

Auld Lang Syne

 

Come on, folks. Give Jim B. a break and post your theme-related items here, so that we can tell that "Theme of the Month" is a useful concept (for this month, at least ;)).

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