Wolf Molkentin Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I guess Prof. Danny RatFace will not mind me referring to his arrangement of "Michael Turner's waltz" (which tune itself has in fact been conceived by W. A. Mozart, master of simplicity and beauty). In case you don't know this sheet already (or you do, anyway), you might try a start from here... BTW: Thank you, John, for your always inspiring and uplifting contributions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Irishman Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) John wrote: "but it seems to me that the EC is not really a "chording machine", like the Anglo " I chord and play counter melodies all the time. In our arrangement of Django Reinhart's Nuages I chord a D7 with flatted 9th or a sustaining D with pass through chording of D7(+9) to Augmented A with the 7th. But you did say the EC players may see it differently. rss Randy, A real expert can do almost anything with almost anything! Remember, this thread is for beginners. And I bet your EC didn't give you that D-D7(+9)-A+ sequence "mechanically" - you probably had to think about it. My Anglo "chording machine" sometimes comes up with quite surprisingly sophisticated chords, but I've no idea what you call them, because the mechanisms behind them are transparent to the user - or at least, they are to me. Cheers, John Edited November 10, 2011 by Anglo-Irishman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Stein Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 John wrote: "but it seems to me that the EC is not really a "chording machine", like the Anglo " I chord and play counter melodies all the time. In our arrangement of Django Reinhart's Nuages I chord a D7 with flatted 9th or a sustaining D with pass through chording of D7(+9) to Augmented A with the 7th. But you did say the EC players may see it differently. rss Randy, A real expert can do almost anything with almost anything! Remember, this thread is for beginners. And I bet your EC didn't give you that D-D7(+9)-A+ sequence "mechanically" - you probably had to think about it. My Anglo "chording machine" sometimes comes up with quite surprisingly sophisticated chords, but I've no idea what you call them, because the mechanisms behind them are transparent to the user - or at least, they are to me. Cheers, John Point well made though expert is well overstated. I practice arpeggios and scales daily and while such chording isn't always intuitive it does become easier and understandable with this practice. Not to mention muscle memory... rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Irishman Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I practice arpeggios and scales daily and while such chording isn't always intuitive it does become easier and understandable with this practice. Not to mention muscle memory... This is also a point well made! No amount of theory will make you a good player without this kind of practice. And please note, Randy said "daily!" Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jggunn Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Thanks for the Chapman arrangement. That was the kind of thing I was referring to -- but I do not have the tenor range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 -- but I do not have the tenor range. I wished I'd had it myself, as it would in fact make not only this one slightly nicer - but on the other hand you'll be able to easily omit or replace those few lower notes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Stein Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Here is a beginner piece with some simple chording you should be able to use. Mack the Knife. rr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenTx Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 John wrote: "but it seems to me that the EC is not really a "chording machine", like the Anglo " I chord and play counter melodies all the time. In our arrangement of Django Reinhart's Nuages I chord a D7 with flatted 9th or a sustaining D with pass through chording of D7(+9) to Augmented A with the 7th. But you did say the EC players may see it differently. rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I play Anglo and have been working at transferring my guitar and melodeon experience to it. In working out an arrangement , if I need one to augment the melody with more than ornaments, I find it hepful to play the melody notes and make a 2 note chord (diad) againts them missing out the 3rd note eg. CG for the C(E)G C major chord It serves for both major and minor chords too. Just play the melody notes and 'hunt and peck' till you get a nice sound. I agree with John you don't really need to know much and I'm sure that's how music evolved. There is a nice harmonic feel that seems pretty universal and , although we have become culturally educated to new 'dischords' and sometimes weird sounds the easy way works pretty well for a beginner. I play a lot of Carolan tunes , which are given in the O'Sullivan tune book as 'top lines' only - with a mate who is a guitarist who adopts lots of open tunings and makes up his own chord shapes for interesting chords but my simple chords don't intrude , and as a melodic player, mainly, we get along fine usually. When I sing I go for a fuller sound but again keep it simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Are you up horrendously late or horrendously early, Mike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Grandaughter woke me up to play , then fell asleep ! It passes the time ! Cheers Dirge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Grandaughter woke me up to play , then fell asleep ! It passes the time ! Cheers Dirge! Cheers Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jggunn Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Thanks, Randy. That is helpful. Maybe a couple more, a step up in difficulty if you have time at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Stein Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 A little more challenging... rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenTx Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 ...another tutor you might want to look at is "Concertina Workshop--Tutor for the English Concertina" by Alistair Anderson. I must have printed this from somewhere here in c.net, but I do not know where. I am just going into this tutor, it has some terrific sycopated/dotted swing-y tunes and discussions of chords and alternate fingerings. good luck in your fun Michelle It's available as a PDF download on free-reed.co.uk: http://www.free-reed...tinaworkhop.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenTx Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 I just downloaded this wow full of information --thank you so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenTx Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 A little more challenging... rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenTx Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Randy, Thank you this will be fun to sink my teeth into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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