Jump to content


Photo

Wheatstone Aeola Tenor-Treble English Concertina

Aeola tenor-treble EC

  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 Ray

Ray

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 50 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Sussex, UK

Posted 19 February 2018 - 06:14 AM

I've decided to sell one of my two Aeola tenor-trebles (unjustifiable extravagance to keep both!). I really struggled to decide which one to part with but have chosen the metal-ended 56-button one, serial number 26248 (which dates it at 1914).

It has a bright tone, as you'd expect with a metal-ended Wheatstone, and has a fast, highly responsive action with a very free-speaking, lush sound and wide dynamic range - fabulous for tunes but also for gentle song accompaniment.

It was professionally serviced about six years ago and the bellows, springs, pads, reeds and valves are in very good order. It's in concert pitch and is an absolute delight to play.

The metal end-grills are typical for an instrument of this age, with the finish dull in places and with some wear to the plating. I've not had them re-plated as I think venerable instruments like this look great in their natural state, but these grills are easily re-plated if you prefer a gleaming, new-look finish.

It comes in a modern hard case. I was originally asking £3,500 ono ... but now see below - only £2,750!!

 

I tried putting images in here directly but couldn't get the size sensible, so here are external links:

 

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola3.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola4.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola2.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola5.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola6.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola1.jpg

 

And here's a sound file just to give an indication of how it sounds and plays:

http://www.raychandl...audio/Aeola.mp3


Edited by Ray, 07 March 2018 - 11:29 AM.


#2 Ray

Ray

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 50 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Sussex, UK

Posted 26 February 2018 - 06:40 AM

I've put this on eBay now (after giving it a week on here first) ... opening bid price only £3k. Already attracted three watchers in first 12 hours, so hoping it'll move towards my original asking price of £3.5 ono.  If anyone here wants to make an offer, get in touch asap.



#3 Ray

Ray

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 50 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Sussex, UK

Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:01 AM

Well, I thought £3,000 was a bargain opening price for this fine instrument, but after no interest on here and then no bids on eBay, I've re-listed it at only £2,750. You see standard Aeola trebles for this kind of money, so for a tenor-treble this is surely a real snip!



#4 Geoff Wooff

Geoff Wooff

    Heavyweight Boxer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2137 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France

Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:55 AM

Is it possible  that the market has bombed Ray ?

 

I notice  the  high end Anglo market has calmed  over the last few years, and that is  with the elevating effect of the,  still very strong,  Irish  Trad  scene.  Calmed  not so much in the demand  for the top instruments but  in the prices achieved  for  the vintage  models.  Although the fact that there are quite a few  very good  makers  of new Anglos  may  have an affect too. 

 

The EC market is quieter than it  has been and  is  reasonably  well supplied with fine vintage instruments like your  Tennor-Treble.

 

However, good luck with your sale.


Edited by Geoff Wooff, 05 March 2018 - 06:58 AM.


#5 Ray

Ray

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 50 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Sussex, UK

Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:13 AM

Yes, I think you are right, Geoff. When you look at asking prices by the likes of Barleycorn, Hobgoblin, etc, they are noticeably quite a lot lower than a while back. Still, even allowing for that I reckon my new asking price is a snip!  The market will decide if I'm right.  Cheers.



#6 Theo

Theo

    Heavyweight Boxer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1637 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Gateshead, England. Land of the Angel of the North!

Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:20 AM

Be patient.   Your price is very good for a buyer, but that doesn't mean it will sell quickly.   The number of possible customers who have the funds available is quite small.  It's not like selling baked beans. With a top quality instrument like this you have to be in for the long game.



#7 Geoff Wooff

Geoff Wooff

    Heavyweight Boxer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2137 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France

Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:52 AM

Of course your  price is fine  Ray  but , with  the likes  of  Barleycorn and Hobgoblin  there is surely an element of  garantee  and VAT included in their prices.

 

I think Theo has a good point   that it might take a while  to find the  right customer. I've seen adverts for accordions  that are still  listed after two ,or more ,years  here in France. 



#8 Ray

Ray

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 50 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Sussex, UK

Posted 05 March 2018 - 08:53 AM

I used to be impatient but I've got no time for that now. :)



#9 ceemonster

ceemonster

    Heavyweight Boxer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1371 posts

Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:51 AM

I think it's two things:

 

The EC market got overblown there for a while, and it's undergoing a correction.  (This also occurred with duets.  Well, Anglos also, but they went higher, and the Anglo correction still has Anglos higher than ECs and duets.)

 

Second, I think Geoff is on to something---Across the board on instrument forums there is plenty of chatter about instrument sale markets having bombed.  This goes for guitars, banjos, mandolins, no less than free-reed instruments.   For the first few years of it, I thought Theo's observation was the main reason---in the wake of the crash years, even into the current so-called "recovery," people simply do not have the cash for these purchases.  And if they do have some cash, they are afraid to turn it loose.

 

And I still think that is a significant factor.  But the last year or so, it's feeling like that is not the only factor.  Something is shifting in the culture.  The longing to play and acquire instruments is not what it once was.  That is an ominous presentiment.


Edited by ceemonster, 06 March 2018 - 02:53 AM.


#10 Theo

Theo

    Heavyweight Boxer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1637 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Gateshead, England. Land of the Angel of the North!

Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:14 AM

I don’t know if you are in the business of selling instruments Ceemonster, but I am and I don’t recognise the picture you paint. Top quality instruments still sell well.

#11 ceemonster

ceemonster

    Heavyweight Boxer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1371 posts

Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:25 AM

Not at the prices they once did.   I can assure you, when it comes to premium-quality acoustic stringed instruments as well as free reeds, there is indeed plenty of hand-wringing out there about the current moribund "buyer's market."  (Of course, it isn't really a buyer's market.  Sellers are holding, by and large.)    And yes, I've sold my share of very nice instruments, though it's not my principal métier in life, thank goodness.

 

But I agree with you all . . . the OP's TT will certainly sell.  The likeliest buyer one would bet would be someone in geographic range to be able to give it the onceover in person.  But who knows.   

 

I do see on the Barleycorn site, which fairly recently has been listing inventory with pictures, Barleycorn says they have numerous Aeola TTs.  I would bet they are priced higher than the OP's, but I do note even Barleycorn's EC prices are lower than we were seeing about five years ago for ECs.    They had a metal-ended Baritone-Treble Aeola posted about a month ago at a price I thought was astonishingly low.  Not cheap, but much lower than one was seeing seven or so years ago.  It did sell very quickly.


Edited by ceemonster, 06 March 2018 - 03:33 AM.


#12 Mike Pierceall

Mike Pierceall

    Chatty concertinist

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 470 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Southern California U.S.A.

Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:33 PM

I've decided to sell one of my two Aeola tenor-trebles (unjustifiable extravagance to keep both!). I really struggled to decide which one to part with but have chosen the metal-ended 56-button one, serial number 26248 (which dates it at 1914).

It has a bright tone, as you'd expect with a metal-ended Wheatstone, and has a fast, highly responsive action with a very free-speaking, lush sound and wide dynamic range - fabulous for tunes but also for gentle song accompaniment.

It was professionally serviced about six years ago and the bellows, springs, pads, reeds and valves are in very good order. It's in concert pitch and is an absolute delight to play.

The metal end-grills are typical for an instrument of this age, with the finish dull in places and with some wear to the plating. I've not had them re-plated as I think venerable instruments like this look great in their natural state, but these grills are easily re-plated if you prefer a gleaming, new-look finish.

It comes in a modern hard case. I was asking £3,500 ono ... but now see below!!

 

I tried putting images in here directly but couldn't get the size sensible, so here are external links:

 

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola3.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola4.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola2.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola5.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola6.jpg

http://www.raychandl...ages/Aeola1.jpg

Sound files are useful, particularly something that demonstrates the responsiveness of the reeds.  You might expand your market beyond a limited range of prospective buyers that live close by.  



#13 Ray

Ray

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 50 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Sussex, UK

Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:33 AM

Good point, Michael - thanks.  See link added to original post.

And again here for convenience:

http://www.raychandl...audio/Aeola.mp3



#14 ceemonster

ceemonster

    Heavyweight Boxer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1371 posts

Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:54 AM

Gee, it has a very nice vocal timbre indeed.



#15 Ray

Ray

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 50 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Sussex, UK

Posted 16 March 2018 - 11:57 AM

Now sold ... gone to a very good home ensuring it continues to get the care and playing it deserves.







Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Aeola, tenor-treble, EC

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users