Jump to content

Gary Chapin

Recommended Posts

I'm a bit confused by the music Gary, the B part has a time signature of 3/4 but the bars are written in 3/8??

Yes, it looks odd written like this and in fact Gary, when you played it "in your kitchen video" the B part does not sound very waltzy.. more like a Three Time Bourrée...

 

I have been known to play this on my concertina, but I do not suggest that I have a Concertina Version.. it is just a dance that comes up at Bals from time to time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is the best I can come up with.

 

X:25
T:Cotillon Vert, Le
M:4/4
L:1/8
P:(AB)3
K:C
P:A
Q:1/4=140
|:edcB c2 de|f2 df e2c2|edcB c2de|f2d2c4:|
M:3/8
L:1/8
Q:1/4=115
[P:B]gag|fde|fgf|e2c|efe|dBc|def|g3|
gag|fde|fgf|e2c|efe|dBc|ded|c3|]
Edit: refined the abc. I think the A repeats but the B doesn't, some of the recordings bear this out.
Edited by tallship
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm a bit confused by the music Gary, the B part has a time signature of 3/4 but the bars are written in 3/8??

 

I would bet that that is simply an ABC error. In the Mally Bal Folk book, those are quarter notes.

 

Here's a link to another rendering: http://www.diatojo.com/tablatures/fichiers/cotillon-vert.pdf

 

I think the appropriate correction for the ABC is to change the L for the B part to 1/4 and to leave it in 3/4.

 

[uPDATE: fixed it on the blog]

 

 

Yes, it looks odd written like this and in fact Gary, when you played it "in your kitchen video" the B part does not sound very waltzy.. more like a Three Time Bourrée...

 

I have been known to play this on my concertina, but I do not suggest that I have a Concertina Version.. it is just a dance that comes up at Bals from time to time.

 

I could be playing it more quickly than I ought ... the French waltz can be brisk. Do you think Sylvain and Dominique's versions don't sound waltz-like?

Edited by Gary Chapin
Link to comment
Share on other sites

To me the best solution seems to be

 

 

X:25
T:Cotillon Vert, Le
M:C|
L:1/8
P:(AB)3
K:C
P:A
Q:1/2=115
|:edcB c2 de|f2 df e2c2|edcB c2de|f2d2c4:|
M:3/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=115
[P:B]gag|fde|fgf|e2c|efe|dBc|def|g3|
gag|fde|fgf|e2c|efe|dBc|ded|c3|]
It seems to me that in the performances the half note of the A section is essentially equal to one bar of the B section. If you prefer to look at the B section as 3/4 just change the M:3/4 L:1/4 Q:3/4=115
Edited: I don't know the dance so my tempo guess may be wrong, but that certainly makes it easy to play and corresponds quite well to the performances
Edited by cboody
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've been obsessing about this tune, and actually went looking for a concertina version. Anyone?

 

http://accordeonaire.blogspot.com/2013/07/tribute-le-cotillon-vert.html

 

Okay, I'll bite. Cool tune, never played anything quite like this before! Played in C on a Morse C/G anglo. Seems to me that to get the timing right, you have to see the dancers in front of you.

 

https://soundcloud.com/concertinist/le-cotillon-vert-2

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Yes, it looks odd written like this and in fact Gary, when you played it "in your kitchen video" the B part does not sound very waltzy.. more like a Three Time Bourrée...

 

I have been known to play this on my concertina, but I do not suggest that I have a Concertina Version.. it is just a dance that comes up at Bals from time to time.

 

I could be playing it more quickly than I ought ... the French waltz can be brisk. Do you think Sylvain and Dominique's versions don't sound waltz-like?

 

 

Sylvain's sounds correctly waltzy, and I'm sure Dominique's will be perfect, though I cannot locate a version just this minute.... I think you need to waltz around the kitchen a bit ;)

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jim, that's great and your chording is really nice. Thanks so much ... would you mind my sharing it on the blog???

 

 

Sylvain's sounds correctly waltzy, and I'm sure Dominique's will be perfect, though I cannot locate a version just this minute.... I think you need to waltz around the kitchen a bit ;)

 

You wouldn't be the first to suggest it! Dominique's is linked to in my article.

Edited by Gary Chapin
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...