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#1 edi

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:57 PM

Hello,

I have recently purchased two Lachenals, one is an English serial no. 42538, the other is a Crane duet no. 624. According to the guesstimate in the faq they would have been produced in 1905 and 1870 respectively (the seller gave 1891 for the English, not 1905), but the faq states the formulae are rather incorrect.

Please help.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:00 AM

I believe Duets have their own number designation unrelated to anglos and englishes. The crane did not hit the scene until after 1900, I believe. 


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 01:29 PM

I estimate the year of manufacture of No 42538 as 1904. I have a receipt for No. 42146--a 64 key Edeophone sold in Liverpool to Charles East on April 11, 1904.

Crane duets not only had a number series separate for English and Anglo Lachenals, but also separate from the Maccann duet series (until about 1910 when the two duet series merged into a single series).  Cranes appeared before 1900 (John Buttersworth patent of September 1896). I estimate the year of manufacture for Crane No. 624 as 1907--but I am stil working on that dating, and it may have been made a little earlier.



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 07:16 AM

Thanks a lot so far!



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 11:13 AM

Edi,

I would like a little more information about your English No. 42538:

48 keys?

Wood or Metal ends?

Bone or Metal buttons?

Number of bellow folds?

Specail model such as Inimitable or Excelsior?



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Posted 09 November 2017 - 05:42 PM

I’d say a simple tutor, 48 keys, no bushing, wooden ends with simple fretwork and bone keys. Four folds. I’ll post pics.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:11 AM

Here are a few pics. On the right hand side, I have restored the fretwork. The work isn´t finished and I am not sure whether I´ll try to make it unrecognisable from the original or let the differences show so it is clear what is new.

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