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#1 SusanW

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 06:34 PM

Any idea what key she is playing Dowd's Favorite in? GDorian? 

https://www.youtube....h?v=xy0tcBC3hiY

 

Any of these? https://thesession.org/tunes/229

 



#2 Jack Campin

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 06:51 PM

A dorian/minor hexatonic, I think (there may be an F sharp in there but I didn't notice one on a single hearing).



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Posted 24 February 2017 - 11:55 PM

It’s in G minor. There’s no E naturals or E flats, so there’s no point worrying whether it’s dorian. There are other accidentals, however. This is how I hear it (and jotted it down in abc), ignoring most of the ornaments and swung rhythm:

 

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Note this graphic (and many others) will disappear in a few weeks on the ides of March, when DropBox stops supporting the “public folder” concept.

 

[Edited to add:] See what I mean? The graphic is gone, but it lives on thanks to Jack’s post, below.


Edited by David Barnert, 18 March 2017 - 10:41 AM.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 06:09 AM

Why not simply attach the file to the post?  It gets stored along with the forum postings rather than on Dropbox, surely?  I've done that here with David's transcription.

 

On my (very old) machine, YouTube videos are sometimes shifted in pitch from how the uploader intended - maybe that happened this time.

 

 

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 07:18 AM

Why not simply attach the file to the post?  It gets stored along with the forum postings rather than on Dropbox, surely?  I've done that here with David's transcription.

 

Thanks. I used up my allotted file upload space a long time ago.



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Posted 25 February 2017 - 08:50 AM

Thank you! On thesession.org David Levine made a more concertina friendly version in A dorian, but it sounds so much nicer the way she plays it (IMHO).



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Posted 25 February 2017 - 05:41 PM

Thank you! On thesession.org David Levine made a more concertina friendly version in A dorian, but it sounds so much nicer the way she plays it (IMHO).

 

I think she (Clara Mannion) would sound great playing it in any key.  Links to more of her recordings at http://www.concertin...showtopic=16715 .


Edited by Daniel Hersh, 25 February 2017 - 05:48 PM.


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Posted 27 February 2017 - 05:21 PM

I'm guessing she is not playing a C/G concertina in this clip, but I'm not sure.



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 01:43 AM

It’s in G minor. There’s no E naturals or E flats, so there’s no point worrying whether it’s dorian. There are other accidentals, however. This is how I hear it (and jotted it down in abc), ignoring most of the ornaments and swung rhythm.


You may choose to leave the Gmin vs. Gdor decision unanswered I suppose, but the implied harmonies are clearly Dorian in this example. No consistent use of conventional Dmaj to Gmin chord progressions and clear indication of the Gmin to Fmaj to Gmin chord progressions that would be found in G Dorian pieces.

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:24 AM

Miss Mannion is playing this tune on a Bb/F concertina which puts the notes into a very concertina friendly pattern. It's a really nice tune that sounds fabulous on this flat pitch instrument.

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 05:07 PM

Miss Mannion is playing this tune on a Bb/F concertina which puts the notes into a very concertina friendly pattern. It's a really nice tune that sounds fabulous on this flat pitch instrument.

Ross Schlabach

I suspected that might be what it is. I love the sound. Mary MacNamara often plays a Bb/F concertina, as well. It just doesn't sound quite as nice, when I try it on my C/G in Am....but it sure is easier than trying to play in Gm or whatever it is.



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 07:23 PM

Gm is the relative minor of Bb, Am is the relative minor of C so if you play it in Am on a C/G box then the fingering should be the same as Ciara uses when she plays it in Gm on a Bb/F box.

It might be interesting for you to record Ciara's playing and run it through pitch adjusting software[*] so that it plays in Am rather than Gm.

[*] I use Transpose! but there is other software out there including the free open source Audacity.

Edited by Don Taylor, 28 February 2017 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 04:03 PM

Gm is the relative minor of Bb, Am is the relative minor of C so if you play it in Am on a C/G box then the fingering should be the same as Ciara uses when she plays it in Gm on a Bb/F box.

It might be interesting for you to record Ciara's playing and run it through pitch adjusting software[*] so that it plays in Am rather than Gm.

[*] I use Transpose! but there is other software out there including the free open source Audacity.

Hmmm, that sounds like fun.






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