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#1 Button Pusher

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:56 AM

I am a beginner trying to learn to play the Elise, Hayden Duet concertina.  I choose the duet because from what I read, it was the easiest to learn to play and was a good choice for solo playing.  Living 25 miles from the nearest town, playing for my own enjoyment is my only real option.  I’ve been through the lesson book that came with the instrument, but I am finding additional sheet music for this instrument to be non-existent.  Playing by ear is a non-starter for me; I need to see the notes to play.   There seems to be a lot of lesson books and music written for a 30 key Anglo, I am beginning to think I made a mistake choosing this duet.  But before I give up on the Elise, I would like to find out:

 

1.       Can anyone recommend any beginner lesson books or where I can purchase sheet music for the 34 key Hayden Duet?

2.      I would like to play some Sea Shanties, does anyone know of a book or sheet music with the lyrics for this music?

3.      What sheet music written for a different instrument would be best to play with a duet concertina?

 

Thanks,

Damman



#2 Geoff Wooff

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:14 AM

You could try  'easy piano'  scores... there are quite a few books available;  one I've pulled off my bookshelf  called " The joy of  First Piano Collection"  from Yorktown Music Press.  This  has   simple arrangements that can be adapted  for  the Duet  Concertina.  I'm sure there are lots  more  'beginner keyboard'  sheet music  books  available.  You may have to transpose  arrangements  to fit onto the  34 key Duet .

 

I look for  sheet music  books   at  garage sales  and flea markets...  there are often  to be found ,less complex  arrangements  for the amateur  musician  can be ideal  for the concertina

 

Check out the  music  for Duet concertina  at   www.concertina.com 


Edited by Geoff Wooff, 10 February 2017 - 02:17 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 09:54 AM

Duet specific music tends to take advantage of the duets ability to play fancy stuff like counterpoint, or simultaneous harmony line with the melody.  Gorgeous but frustrating for a beginner.

 

Try learning the left hand chord shapes.  Just 2, major and minor will get you a long way.  There are links to diagrams of the shapes on this site if you search, or shout if you can't find them.

 

Then get music with melody notes and chord symbols ("C", "G", "D", "Em" etc) so you can play the melody with your right hand and accompany yourself with the left.

 

A great beginner book for this if you like English folk is Easy Peasy Tunes by Dave Mallison: http://www.hobgoblin...tunes-by-mally/

 

And the Internet is full of a lifetime supply of free such scores.  Try: http://www.8notes.co...ee folk&x=0&y=0

Search musescore.com, folktunefinder.com.  Have fun.

 



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 04:32 PM

I’ve been playing the Hayden for 30 years and I’ve never seen music published with the Hayden in mind. You have to go with what you can find and adapt as necessary. But the sources are limitless. If your musical tasted overlap with many of us here on concertina.net, you’ll find much to chew on in books of Morris Dance tunes, Contradance Tunes (The Portland Collection books), English Country Dance tunes (The Peter Barnes books), English Session Tunes (“Hardcore English”) or The Waltz Books. Many of these can be bought at store.cdss.org, although it’s poorly organized for browsing. Better for browsing, if a little less complete is buttonbox.com/tune-books.html.

 

Good luck, have fun, and welcome to the world of Hayden concertinas.


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:41 AM

I'm not sure if it's the kind of sea shanties that you're looking for, but I recently ran across two books of Newfoundland songs:  "All Around the Circle"  and "We'll Rant And We'll Roar".  The publisher's website has a sample song from each book you can try for free:  http://www.avondalem...lsongbook2.html



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 10:01 AM

The definitive book on sea shanties is "Shanties from the Seven Seas" collected by Stan Hugill. It includes lyrics and a melody line and extensive background about each song.

It does not include any accompaniments because, as work songs, they were sung unaccompanied.

If you can't find a new copy then try ABEbooks.com.

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 01:13 PM

Duet concertina workshops usually cover all duet types together.  So music for any duet type should suit the Hayden.  But your 34-button model may be a bit limited for range, so you may have to fudge things a bit.

 

I know you say you live in a remote area, but if you can get to a squeeze-in somethere which caters for duets you should get some music to play and meet others who are dealing with the same problem.



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 01:42 PM

But your 34-button model may be a bit limited for range, so you may have to fudge things a bit.

 

The 34-button Elise can play diatonically in F, C, G, D, and their relative (natural) minors. Enough for many of the tunes in the sources I mentioned above, not enough for the Bach 2-Part Inventions.



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:40 PM

Thank you for all the great information!  I've picked up a "easy peasy tunes" which are a little to easy, in that the tunes lack a bass clef.  A couple of sea shanty song books and down loaded some sheet music from 8notes.com.  Nothing specifically arranged for the Elise, but playable.

 

Just out of curiosity, I picked up a good used Rochelle off eBay for $275 with a hard case.  I figured it was cheap enough, that I could easily resale it for the same amount if I didn’t like it.  Like starting out on any new instrument, it takes some getting used to, especially when switching from the Hayden duet key layout to a 30 button diatonic.   It’s too confusing to try and learn both instruments, they each have their own advantages and disadvantages.  I’ll keep squeezing away until I decide on which way to go. Thanks again.



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:22 PM

Not too sure of the capabilities of that thing, but maybe 18th century Scottish music might fit - as published (by the Gows among others) the arrangement usually fitted a violin in first position and a cello played in a very simple agricultural vamping style.  So - left hand down to C below the bass staff up to the D above it, right hand from G below the treble staff up to B above it.


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Posted Today, 10:40 AM

I wrote a beginners tutor for the Hayden concertina, which gives a very simple bass line for the left hand side. Included in it is "The High Barbary" one of the sea songs that Bob Roberts of Penmill used to sing along with many of his sea shanties.

This gives a simple counter melody to the tune.  However for sea shanties I would personally suggest a good rhythmic um-pah bass to get the anchor up and the sails hoisted might be more suitable.

You will find the above mentioned tutor on the other concertina site (concertina.com).

If you have any other questions about Hayden concertinas you should post on the teaching and learning section of this web site.

 

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