SteveS Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) An advertisement in the Dundee Advertiser for 8 May 1863 lists Organ Concertinas and Celestial Concertinas. Any guesses as to what types of concertias these were? New Patent Piano Concertinas - could these have been JEDcertinas? Edited September 1, 2014 by SteveS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dowright Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Beginning in 1859, George Jones manufactured Celestial" English and Anglo Concertinas. The Jedcertina (John E. Dallas patent No. 489776; Lachenal Model No. 7561) did not appear before 1929-1930. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Beginning in 1859, George Jones manufactured Celestial" English and Anglo Concertinas. The Jedcertina (John E. Dallas patent No. 489776; Lachenal Model No. 7561) did not appear before 1929-1930. I wonder what a Piano Concertina is/was in 1863. Looks like they may have been retailers for Jones' concertinas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If I've done this right, this link : http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JKZO1aevsiIC&pg=PA150&lpg=PA150&dq=celestial+concertina&source=bl&ots=yjvE3DI086&sig=jl6frJ1lmVNY0K6xzV_zheOvxzw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=emYEVP7NDsHOaLHrgpgJ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=celestial%20concertina&f=false will lead you to a page in a book by Dan Worrall, called The Anglo-German Concertina: A Social History, Volume 2. Near the bottom of page 150 there is a description of the Celestial concertina: a double reeded, tremolo tuned instrument. Near the top of page 151, the Organ Concertina is described as an octave tuned double reed instrument. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Entry D5 on this page: http://www.concertina.com/merris/bibliography/duet-tutors.htm gives a tantalising glimpse: just the cover of a tutor. If we could see inside it, we would know the keyboard layout. If anybody knows how to find old patents, presumably a diagram of the layout would be there. Steve Edited September 1, 2014 by Lofty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Crabb Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Entry D5 on this page: http://www.concertina.com/merris/bibliography/duet-tutors.htm gives a tantalising glimpse: just the cover of a tutor. If we could see inside it, we would know the keyboard layout. If anybody knows how to find old patents, presumably a diagram of the layout would be there. Steve And in the write up to D5 “new patent piano concertina” in the title refers to the system in Charles F. W. Rust (“Concertinas, &c.,” July 9, 1862; Patent No. 1976). Interesting that the Rust patent date 1862 is the year before the Dundee Advertiser copy (May 1863) Geoffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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