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#1 irishfolk

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:30 AM

Hey everybody,

 

this is my first post here. I'm Philipp, 25 years old, I come from Germany (Kaiserslautern) and usually play the piano at irish folk sessions. As a second (more transportable ;) ) instrument, I'm thinking about buying a concertina. By searching on the internet, I learned a lot about the construction, the different button layouts and which layout is convenient for irish folk. During my search, I came across an intermediate concertina from McNeela (Phoenix):

 

http://www.mcneelamu...nix-concertina/

 

Now the question is whether this is an instrument I will enjoy for a longer time (several years) or will there a need to upgrade after a fairly short time? Has anyone experience with this model? Are there any significant differences between Czechoslovakian and Italian reeds (tipo a mano) with respect to the sound or response, respectively?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:08 AM

Good day Philipp I have the mcneelamu wren its ok but might not last for a little bit more look at the Wolverton has good reports

Ron



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 06:42 AM

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:11 PM

I cant reccomend the Wolverton highly enough. Incredible value for the money and a very reliable and friendly guy to deal with. I recently took delivery of a g/d from him (as i already have a nice c/g) and i have to say I love it. Beautifully made and it sounds fantastic



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:13 PM

Thank you for the tip, Ron! I can imagine that the Wren might not last for many years. But it doesn't have to. It's a fairly cheap beginner instrument. However, the Phoenix is quite a bit more expensive and seems to be built from much more qualitative components. Are there any negative properties?



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:34 PM

By Czechoslovakian made reeds, I am guessing these are made by Harmonikas in the Czech Republic (Czechoslovakia does not exist anymore).

 

Interesting video here on their factory.

 

They do list  "Dix Concertina" reeds, is this what McNeely is using?

 

A few years ago somebody here was building a concertina using these reeds but I don't think that they ever reported the final results.

 

Some folks on Melodeon.net think that Antonelli reeds (Italian) are actually made by Harmonikas in the Czech Republic.

 

I have no idea about the quality of these reeds, but I have often wondered why we do not see the Dix Concertina reeds showing up in new builds.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:32 AM

According to Mr. McNeela (I wrote an e-mail), the reeds are A Mano accordion reeds from Harmonikas. He says that they are very loud, very responsive and designed for jigs and reels. Apart from that he also recommends Lachenal, Claddagh or even Jeffries concertinas in case one doesn't want to upgrade within a few years. Nevertheless, I think it's a great value concertina for its price, besides the Wolverton, which also appears to be a good intermediate instrument.







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