SteveS Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I'm in the process of rebuilding a Wheatstone 29 key bass. The serial number had eluded me - but having just found a single light imprint of the serial number (24699 - making it around 1909) I'm wondering about labels,. Does anyone have a good scan of a manufacturers paper label (oval) and serial number label (also oval) commensurate with the age of the instrument? I can use the serial number label to match the font for my own label. Cheers Edited November 10, 2015 by SteveS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 It's a West Street paper label I'm after. Does anyone have a scan of such a Wheatstone label? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike byrne Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Which West St. label is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Hi MIke I think the left hand label would be a super finishing touch to my rebuild. Many thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Moore Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hi everyone! Been a while, sorry I'm out of touch with connecting!) I am currently restoring a 1919 rosewood ended Wheatstone Linota and as a final touch, I would love to include a new makers badge. Does anyone have a suitable scan of one that I can use from this period? I have found a few online, but the quality isn't quite right. I was also wondering, would these have originally sat behind glass or just been in there as paper inserts? Thanks in advance for any help! Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Franch Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I have a 1915 Model 21 which has what seems to be a plastic type material over both the label and the serial number. It's horribly clouded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Moore Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I have a 1915 Model 21 which has what seems to be a plastic type material over both the label and the serial number. It's horribly clouded. Thankyou for that Mike! Not sure I will be able to track down 1915 plastic (or that I would want to!) but nice to know it has something there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Johnson Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I know for a fact that it isn't kosher, but I used to spread a thin coat of epoxy over my early paper labels before I went to stamped metal. It yellowed nicely but was good protection, and so far has stayed clear. ( only 22 years so far ). Given that a replacement label isn't any more original and given that it's current age has left it in less than pristine condition... Dana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Moore Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I know for a fact that it isn't kosher, but I used to spread a thin coat of epoxy over my early paper labels before I went to stamped metal. It yellowed nicely but was good protection, and so far has stayed clear. ( only 22 years so far ). Given that a replacement label isn't any more original and given that it's current age has left it in less than pristine condition... Dana I know for a fact that it isn't kosher, but I used to spread a thin coat of epoxy over my early paper labels before I went to stamped metal. It yellowed nicely but was good protection, and so far has stayed clear. ( only 22 years so far ). Given that a replacement label isn't any more original and given that it's current age has left it in less than pristine condition... Dana I am still deciding whether adding in a fake label is sacrilege or if it will make it nicer! I'm going to have a play and see how I feel! Good idea on the epoxy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Moore Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 So after some tinkering in photoshop I managed to reproduce a label from around the right timeframe! My first attempt on a home printer laminated between two pieces of clear plastic didn't work so well (left hand on image) So I took it to a printers and got it printed on cotton parchment paper and laminated. Looks pretty good I think. I can provide the PDF with the artwork on it to anyone who wants, and if you fancy a trip to Kent, I have another 40 laminated labels here! (The fee was the same for 2 full a4 so I thought why not!) Embedding of images seems to have gone crazy, but you can view it here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ppsym12lvt2kmo/label22.jpg?dl=0 Will add another image once the restoration is complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Moore Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 also, I'm sure someone will point out that Wheatstone moved to West Street in 1905, but unless someone has a West Street label that they can scan in, I have to use what I have! so Conduit/Regent it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Johnson Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 also, I'm sure someone will point out that Wheatstone moved to West Street in 1905, but unless someone has a West Street label that they can scan in, I have to use what I have! so Conduit/Regent it is! If the Concertina is a Wheatstone, and you provide proper dates with it, a Wheatstone label should be good enough. Who is to say they didn't use up old labels when they moved? ( I'm sure somebody will ) I know some people give a lot of ego to provenance, but the instruments were meant to be played, not argued over. What you do to improve it' sound is more important than any label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Coles Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I know for a fact that it isn't kosher, but I used to spread a thin coat of epoxy over my early paper labels before I went to stamped metal. It yellowed nicely but was good protection, and so far has stayed clear. ( only 22 years so far ). Given that a replacement label isn't any more original and given that it's current age has left it in less than pristine condition... Dana I have one of those labels on my early (2004) Kensington (played it this morning) and it is still white actually - maybe less UV in cloudy Pennsylvania! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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