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#1 Sunbeamer

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 03:11 PM

Hello folks , anyone have a c/g Dipper Anglo for sale ?

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 07:46 PM

A Dipper may come up for sale on this forum about......once in about every 5 to 7 years.

 

My suggestion would be to contact John Dipper (son of Colin and Rosalie Dipper) @  http://www.johndipper.co.uk/.....   .he is also a member of this forum....and check with him if any of the Dipper family's customers are upgrading their current Dipper anglos...and who may want to sell the older concertina to fund the new order...

 

I am picking up my brand new Dipper anglo next month from the Dippers......after a 9 year wait. The waiting list is long. Good luck.


Edited by ben, 19 September 2017 - 12:20 PM.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 08:36 AM

Thanks for the "heads up" , much appreciated

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 01:42 PM

Here is one that recently sold on Ebay.  It originally started out at around 11,500$ and they eventually dropped the price.  I think it was sold by a consignment shop so they didn't know anything about it.  I would have bought it if I had the money.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...119.m1438.l2649

 

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 03:01 AM

That is crazy !! Apparently it was sold for $6,495.95, with no description except this "One of the reeds came loose inside and needs to be opened and reattached.".

It's true that I don't really know the value of "dipper" …What justify that price !?



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 05:12 AM

That is crazy !! Apparently it was sold for $6,495.95, with no description except this "One of the reeds came loose inside and needs to be opened and reattached.".

It's true that I don't really know the value of "dipper" …What justify that price !?

 

The quality... and the reputation of the maker for said quality.



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 09:27 AM

Judging Dippers and their prices by that one eBay listing is very misleading. That instrument was a real “one off” and may have been considered one his early Shantyman creations which were things of beauty as well as great concertinas. It was originally priced at a ridiculous level, but finally sold at a more reasonable price. About 3 years ago I sold a small Dipper Cotswold for near the same money (suggesting the market is still there for Dippers). It was a great little players instrument which played and looked beautiful. The market is somewhat softer for most concertinas than it was around 2007 before the crash. But even considering that, Dippers are rare instruments that hold their value well, play as good as they look, and they don't sit around long. Do not expect to find much of a bargain where Dippers are concerned, and as is true with any concertina, playing before buying is always highly recommended.

Good luck in your search.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 09:56 AM

Thank you RP3 for the clarification ! (Personally I am not looking for a Dippers concertina :rolleyes: ). 



#9 Ed Stander

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:47 PM

Just for the record,  I asked Rosalie about the Concertina in question.  Here was her response:

 

No 117 was completed in 1989 and is a small-size instrument with 5mm brass buttons. The wood is padauk and carved with a brass inset and with dark green bellows with mermaid papers. It had raised handbars and was tuned in F+C and was sold including fitted special mahogany carrying case for £755.00.

 

Looks like the buttons were changed at some point, elsewise the same instrument.  It further looks like times (and prices) have changed in the interim!

  Best - Ed



#10 Mr.Nate

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:58 PM

Ed,

 

I am happy to hear  that you finally solved the mystery of the..

RARE Rosalie Dipper Bellows #117 Concertina Squeezebox Accordion Squeeze Box. 

 

Just quoting the original ebay listing because the people who sold it didn't spend much time researching  this truly rare find. 

 

I wonder if the "small size" was a 5 5/8?  I am sure it was a piece of art that you could play!

 

 

 



#11 David Levine

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:37 AM

Wouldn't the F/C tuning make it less valuable to a traditional player? I thought that The Shantyman model, though beautiful, had longer reeds that were somewhat slow to respond, as compared to such other models as The Cotswold and The County Clare. The Shantyman is designed for accompanying a singer and thus offers a bit less volume than an instrument designed for playing traditional music. 

That said, I think that the person who bought it got a bargain. 



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:57 AM

Wouldn't the F/C tuning make it less valuable to a traditional player? I thought that The Shantyman model, though beautiful, had longer reeds that were somewhat slow to respond, as compared to such other models as The Cotswold and The County Clare. The Shantyman is designed for accompanying a singer and thus offers a bit less volume than an instrument designed for playing traditional music. 

That said, I think that the person who bought it got a bargain. 

Less value to an Irish trad player I would say and that is generally where the anglo market is driven.  However, for a serious singer or English style player it would be something special.  A smaller market but if you've got the money you won't do better than a Dipper.



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 04:52 PM

Many thanks to all who have replied !
I have had the pleasure to hear a Dipper Anglo played on 4 occasions , each time has been memorable .
I still want one !!

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:19 AM

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Edited by Sunbeamer, 25 September 2017 - 05:22 AM.


#15 Mikefule

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:27 AM

I have a GD Dipper.  Absolutely exquisite craftsmanship and a thing of beauty to behold.  The action and sound are top quality.  I have lessons with a chap who has a couple of Dippers and they are also splendid instruments.With such top quality and a limited supply, it is no surprise that prices are high.



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 10:11 PM

Cormac Begley describes and plays his bass anglo Dipper on a livestream from a week ago. I cannot recall the minute mark. Worth a listen though. 



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 12:48 AM

[[[I still want one!!]]

 

Well, fhs, OP, get on the Dipper list.  You can always drop out if you luck in to one.  Plus, aren't you not too terribly far from the Dippers?  Perhaps you could make an appointment to visit, admire, and discuss.  

 

My understanding is, it is the custom orders that are super-slow out of their shop.  If your order is pretty straightforward, you actually have a chance of getting one before encountering an available Dipper for sale.   I lucked in to a County Clare model for sale on this site over a decade ago, and have not seen a half-dozen Dipper Anglo C/Gs listed since.


Edited by ceemonster, 08 November 2017 - 12:51 AM.


#18 hjcjones

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 05:51 AM

I agree, if you're serious then get your name on the list. You will have to be patient, but it will give you time to save up for it. If one comes up for sale in the meantime then no harm done, there will be plenty of others on the list who will be glad to move one step closer to the front of the queue.

 

And you just might strike lucky - sometimes people change their order, or their circumstances change and they have to drop out. A few years ago I phoned Colin because one had come up on ebay and I realised I had no idea what they should sell for. As it happened someone was considering changing their order from a standard Cotswold to a custom model - would I be interested in the Cotswold if they did? I didn't need to think about my answer!







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