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#1 cohen

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:11 PM

I thought I would take advantage of the festive season to give this concertina its first public outing. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=E2bHGqGjNvg

 

 

I bought this concertina a year ago in an auction, it was previously discussed on concertina.net here:

http://www.concertin...showtopic=19250

 

It is a C/G bass 2 octaves lower than standard C/G. There is no makers name, but everything suggests that it is a Lachenal. The concertina when I bought it in auction was in a poor state- tuning all over the place, broken reeds, splits in the bellows, broken ends (at some point the ends have been replaced), but Andrew Norman did a great job at restoration and it now plays very nicely. Andrew finished the job in September, it hasn't had its first public outing yet, but I've been trying out lots of new material on it, so hopefully it will make an appearance soon.

 

Merry Christmas!

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:50 PM

Wow!  Great playing and quite a work-out!



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:29 PM

I thought I would take advantage of the festive season to give this concertina its first public outing. 
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=E2bHGqGjNvg


Absolutely wonderful!
 

I bought this concertina a year ago in an auction, it was previously discussed on concertina.net here:
http://www.concertin...showtopic=19250

It is a C/G bass 2 octaves lower than standard C/G.


But I'm wondering about that range.  In the video, the lowest note I can hear (at the very end) is a G, two octaves below the fiddle's low G (2½ octaves below middle C).  That's the same lowest note as my "G-bass" English.  "2 octaves lower than standard C/G" would mean a lowest note (LH, C row) a full fifth lower than that.  Do you really have such a note?  (That would give it the range of the English "contra bass" seen in some old Wheatstone price lists, though I've never seen or heard of one in actual existence.)  If you really do have that super-low C (3 octaves below middle C), I hope you'll record something where we can hear it.  :)

 

FWIW, my understanding of the "usual" anglo terminology is that a "baritone" anglo is an octave below a standard C/G (and so with the same lowest note as a "bass" English) and a "bass" anglo is an octave below a standard G/D (and so with the same lowest note as a "G-bass" English, that same lowest note I hear in your video).


 



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:53 PM

But I'm wondering about that range.  In the video, the lowest note I can hear (at the very end) is a G, two octaves below the fiddle's low G (2½ octaves below middle C).  That's the same lowest note as my "G-bass" English.  "2 octaves lower than standard C/G" would mean a lowest note (LH, C row) a full fifth lower than that.  Do you really have such a note?  (That would give it the range of the English "contra bass" seen in some old Wheatstone price lists, though I've never seen or heard of one in actual existence.)  If you really do have that super-low C (3 octaves below middle C), I hope you'll record something where we can hear it.  :)

 

 

 

FWIW, my understanding of the "usual" anglo terminology is that a "baritone" anglo is an octave below a standard C/G (and so with the same lowest note as a "bass" English) and a "bass" anglo is an octave below a standard G/D (and so with the same lowest note as a "G-bass" English, that same lowest note I hear in your video).

 

The range is a full 2 octaves lower than C/G so yes, the lowest note is C 3 octaves below middle C. As you say the lowest note in this recording is the G above that. I'll make sure to use the super low C if I record anything else on the bass. The bottom note is so low that you can actually feel it in your arm before it sounds, it's glorious! 



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 06:21 PM

Brilliantly played!  Is it your own arrangement, or perhaps an adaptation of an SATB choral arrangement?



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 06:26 PM

Brilliantly played!  Is it your own arrangement, or perhaps an adaptation of an SATB choral arrangement?

 

Thanks. This is my own (very loose) arrangement. 



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Posted 23 December 2017 - 06:49 AM

The range is a full 2 octaves lower than C/G so yes, the lowest note is C 3 octaves below middle C. As you say the lowest note in this recording is the G above that. I'll make sure to use the super low C if I record anything else on the bass. The bottom note is so low that you can actually feel it in your arm before it sounds, it's glorious!


Wow!  This is the first concertina I've heard of that actually goes that low.

 

I look forward to hearing it.  Meanwhile, I'll check that my home insurance covers earthquake damage.  :ph34r:



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Posted 23 December 2017 - 12:07 PM

2 octaves wow!


Edited by Doug Barr, 23 December 2017 - 12:12 PM.


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Posted 23 December 2017 - 01:03 PM

 

The range is a full 2 octaves lower than C/G so yes, the lowest note is C 3 octaves below middle C. As you say the lowest note in this recording is the G above that. I'll make sure to use the super low C if I record anything else on the bass. The bottom note is so low that you can actually feel it in your arm before it sounds, it's glorious!


Wow!  This is the first concertina I've heard of that actually goes that low.

 

I look forward to hearing it.  Meanwhile, I'll check that my home insurance covers earthquake damage.  :ph34r:

 

I want one!  I want one!  But I'm sure if Jim has never heard of one prior, there's no chance of that.  That largest reed I ever had to move air through was a pedal bass in a reed organ I restored, but I had the advantage of being able to use my legs instead of my spindly arms.IMG_2017.JPG






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