m3838 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hi. There is an instrument on Ebay. 30 button Anglo with replica of English made high end Lachenals and green paper like bellows. A seller informed me it's a new Boorinwood model. What is a Boorinwood brand. How their instruments are rated and where and by whom are made? The item is at (long) http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-30-Key-Anglo...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 What is a Boorinwood brand. How their instruments are rated and where and by whom are made? You might want to look at this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 Thanks. I looked at the post, sent message to Boorinwood and recieved an answer with better picture of the same instrument. It's a Stagi. I am awaiting a reply from Boorinwood, where I hope they will explain whether they do anything to the imported instruments. Fro expirience I know, that it is very possible to tweak chinese instrument and make it very playable, durable and good sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Read Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Thanks. I looked at the post, sent message to Boorinwood and recieved an answer with better picture of the same instrument.It's a Stagi. I am awaiting a reply from Boorinwood, where I hope they will explain whether they do anything to the imported instruments. Fro expirience I know, that it is very possible to tweak chinese instrument and make it very playable, durable and good sounding. And that could open up a whole new debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 No no. I had Parrot melodeon, bought new from Lark in the Morning. I thought it was used, so loose it was and basses were out of tune. However, after a visit to Boaz, making buttons' not travel into the keyboard and fixing padding under the grille - surprize! I wouldn't say the look is the same or the voice. Or the energy level of holding a nice warm Lachenal, bearing the signs of many generations of players on it's face can be compared to the cold sensation of holding red celluloid Hohner with a sponge for the bellows. P.S. John from Booringwood told me that he recieved 100 30 buttons concertinas, made specially for him. Anybody have any hands on expirience regarding the voices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Hi, That particular concertina looks almost identical to a Chinese one that I have only you can find them for around $115 +/- on ebay. As a former importer of instruments my own 'opinion' is that at that price there is nothing special about 'specially made'. The factories kick them out by the truckload in different colors, if anyone has another experience I'm open to correction but that's my own experience. If you want one of those look for the $115 ones, the one I got from another member here is now in the able and destructive hands of my 8 year old but holding up well and is an OK deal for the price but you can't play too fast on it. Bellows are nice and easy though. Good luck! Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I have wondered about these instruments too--the prices seem too low for Italian-made. Is Stagi outsourcing to China now? Or are these instruments not really Stagis? I queried the seller myself as to where they were made, but got a reply that said that he would only look into this if I were "serious". I said that I seriously wanted to know, but wouldn't promise to bid, and I haven't heard back from him since. Daniel Hi,That particular concertina looks almost identical to a Chinese one that I have only you can find them for around $115 +/- on ebay. As a former importer of instruments my own 'opinion' is that at that price there is nothing special about 'specially made'. The factories kick them out by the truckload in different colors, if anyone has another experience I'm open to correction but that's my own experience. If you want one of those look for the $115 ones, the one I got from another member here is now in the able and destructive hands of my 8 year old but holding up well and is an OK deal for the price but you can't play too fast on it. Bellows are nice and easy though. Good luck! Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I note from another forum that John of Boorinwood is far from happy about this thread.... In fairness, can some one who knows him perhaps ask him for a posted response? Just a thought.... MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 What other forum is that? Here's one of the Chinese ones that's currently on ebay, have a look and tell me that it's not identical or nearly identical? Cheap Chinese concertina Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) What other forum is that? Here's one of the Chinese ones that's currently on ebay, have a look and tell me that it's not identical or nearly identical? Cheap Chinese concertina I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Lars. That's why I think it would be good to have his comments here and not reported by a third party on melodeon.net. MC Edited December 11, 2005 by malcolm clapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Anyone who wants to see that thread can go to melodeon. net -- forums -- melodeon.net -- booriinwood and take a look. The Boorinwood fellow didn't post there either--someone made a positive reference to their own past dealings with him. It was also pointed out, there, though, that he did not answer the questions posed to him about the instruments that he sells. Daniel What other forum is that? Here's one of the Chinese ones that's currently on ebay, have a look and tell me that it's not identical or nearly identical? Cheap Chinese concertina I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Lars. That's why I think it would be good to have his comments here and not reported by a third party on melodeon.net. MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 It was me. In general John's replies showed that he wants his customers to be happy, but didn't answered my concrete questions of whether anything and what in partiicular has been done to this instruments and how exactly this batch of 100 instruments is better then other batches. His reply was that for such a price you get what you pay for, my response has been that low quality of such instruments isn't necessary even for the price and it is quite easy to improve them: seal, set the reeds, tune etc. The price will not jump considerably, but the playability will be miraculously better. The reeds are exeptionally bad. Again, it's not that difficult to put reasonable Delicia reeds in them. These went un-unswered so far. He mentioned that action is probably copied from early pre-communist era german concertinas and never changed since. But I wouldn't complain about the action. I think it's quite reasonable. After all, all bandoneons still have the same type action. No complains from Astor Piazzola have been recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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