Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Cool! Or is that, kool? B)

 

Nice work so far. you must be getting excited to put some reeds in and see what it will sound like.

 

Greg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Geoff and Greg!

It is still a long way before I put in the reeds because I can only spare a little time each week on this project, but yes, I'm getting really excited - is it going to sound/act terrible or will it prove at least acceptable :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is still a long way before I put in the reeds because I can only spare a little time each week on this project, but yes, I'm getting really excited - is it going to sound/act terrible or will it prove at least acceptable :)

However - I'd bet you wouldn't have to blame the bellows at least...

 

Best wishes for future working on your project! Wolf

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, it's been a long time since I've showed something new in this thread, but preparing my own wedding was a bit more important than this project. A little bit ;) But now I'm back on track, so here they are: my art noveau endplates.

 

post-10030-0-17090100-1411167345_thumb.jpg

post-10030-0-42365000-1411167360_thumb.jpg

post-10030-0-26314700-1411167371_thumb.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Don! I wouldn't call it "immaculate" but I'm indeed quite happy how it turned out.

If there are any flaws then only you will know them.

 

Don.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kudos for branching out on fretting. As much as I enjoy the old vintage concertinas, I don't see a need to anachronistically stick with Victorian motifs for all time, so it's great to see a maker using new fretwork designs.

 

I can't tell if it's real or optical illusion from the color of the wood, but is the end curved upwards towards the middle, or is it reasonably flat and just relieved where the vines cross under?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe it is best to show it from another angle:

post-10030-0-27382400-1411381036_thumb.jpg

post-10030-0-46220800-1411381058_thumb.jpg

 

Yes, there is a 5mm difference in level between the center and the most outer edge and 4 different (sometimes smoothly connected) levels altogether. Since first pictures I have milled the outer edge more, so now it goes past the screw holes and not through them.

 

My fretwork isn't based on acoustic principles, as I haven't build a prototype to experiment on dampening/reflection. I intend to use inner baffles if the need for closing some areas should arise.

 

And I definately agree with you, that there is a lot of opportunities for interesting design of endplates, especially on non-traditional layouts like Hayden or Chromatiphone. OTOH I understand that this is just a result of a market structure: concertina is percieved as a traditional folk instrument and vintage concertinas are a natural reference point. And to be honest, I have chosen art noveau because newer periods in design (except perhaps art deco) do not privide anything as aesthetically pleasing as pre-'60s periods. There is also a practical reason - victorian patterns look good when just cut out flat. Art noveau, floral and art deco designs need substantially more labour to be attractive. Some examples: http://carrollconcertinas.com/64.html , http://www.concertina.net/images_gs_adventures/dipper_left_sm.jpg or http://sevenmount.de/?page_id=42 - especially this last link best illustrates, that you need at least a second, engraving pass to make those designs look good. I'm building this instrument for myself, so I can go with 40+hours of carving, but I don't expect any manufacturer to do this… Would you pay 500$ extra just to have a 3D carved ends?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A word of caution:

 

At one time I build myself an instrument , because I could not find anyone who would make what I wanted and, of course, I could not afford to have someone else make one either. Sound familiar Lukasz ?

 

When I had the thing made some people asked me to make one for them.... 36 years later I am still making them for other people !! I never made any great amounts of money doing this but it still took over my life completely .

 

Your project is coming along well now !

 

Geoff.

Edited by Geoff Wooff

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the warning Geoff :D At least you're doing what you like and what you're good at - IMHO that is a lot better way of life than being stuck in a cubical, anonymously moving papers around for 36 years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

While I admire the 3D, it's not something I'd order for myself, as I like a nice flat end. Though I do wonder if it could be done effectively with a scanner communicating to a 3D wood milling machine or whatever.

 

In any case, yes, forward-leaning fretwork can be beautiful. I'm particularly impressed by these fellows:

 

30if7v9.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the warning Geoff :D At least you're doing what you like and what you're good at - IMHO that is a lot better way of life than being stuck in a cubical, anonymously moving papers around for 36 years.

So, when will you start taking orders?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×