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  1. I think that's mostly what I do if I'm sight reading, think of it as intervals. But you know the root of the key you're playing in (if it's a major key) fits under the index finger, and other relationships like that just start to become second nature as you play more and more. That layout comes from a much larger Wicki button field graphic that wasn't designed to describe a concertina specifically. The 46-key instrument was just highlighted as part of that field, and cut out. So those enharmonic note names change from flats to sharps fairly arbitrarily.
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    What is this?

    I stumbled upon an odd concertina on the stock photo site Yay Images. There are four photos of it if you search for "concertina." What system is this?
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    Duet Concertinas?

    Hello! Thanks for the complimentary mentions on this thread. I indeed haven't been checking into concertina.net regularly for the last few years. I've been making music with my band Skitnik - www.SkitnikMusic.com - which includes a fair bit of concertina work. The type of concertina you play does make a difference, but 90% of what's needed to get a good sound out of any instrument is determination, knowing how you want to sound, and pushing your boundaries over and over again. I do like the Wicki layout. It's trickier than an accordion for playing a melody with simple backup, but easier for that task than an Anglo. Where a duet shines the best, I think, is freely-harmonized two (or more) voiced pieces, with independent counter-melodies and the like. For most things, an acccordion is easier, and you can even get some nice independent bass runs with the bass buttons.. But the concertina does have that special sound to it that an accordion doesn't really replicate. The 46-button instrument I play is limited, but I like the size and portability. It's fun to try to arrange for the limitations of the instrument. But it's demanding to play complex pieces...I haven't practiced my solo stuff much, and I can't play most of it any more! I didn't read this whole thread, but if there are any specific questions still begging for answers, maybe I can help. I should start a separate thread, but I'm planning to go to Ireland for the first time next year! I'd like to make it to the Kilfenora traditional music festival at the end of April, and compete in the All-Ireland bones competition at the beginning of May in Abbeyfeale. I'd love to hear a few tips on where to stay, what to do, any concertina-related spots, maybe. I'm thinking of flying into Dublin and staying a few days, then drive to Galway, Kilfenora, and Doolin before going to Abbeyfeale. And maybe squeeze in a round of golf or two, if there's a way to do that without it costing hundreds of dollars. Any suggestions?
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    Reels and Hornpipes

    Hornpipes often end each section with three quarter notes, especially the tonic repeated three times, or a 1-3-1 pattern. They also tend to have a bouncy, jaunty melody that becomes familiar after you hear a lot of them. For example, larger intervals between melody notes, especially single notes that are a good interval away from the surrounding melody line.
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    Up with the sparrows fart

    Fun tune! Fun and a bit wonky. It elicited a giggle from me at the end.
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    WANTED = Squashbox concertina

    From the article you mention: So you can pretty much get there by swapping reeds around. I don't know if you can find an Eb/Bb 20-button concertina, but the same playing style should work in any key. On a 20-button concertina, swap the inside and outside reeds on the left hand row nearest the handle, and the inside and outside reeds on the right side row furthest from the handle. Some concertinas have differences on the far-left button on the left side, or the far-right button on the right side. You could get a few spare reeds to make the job 100% correct (although I wouldn't be surprised if those buttons varied in the "squash box" layout as well). Here's Harry Scurfield's "squash box" layout represented as notes of the scale: PUSH 1 5 1 3 5 | 7 2 4 6 6 PULL 5 7 2 4 6 | 1 3 5 7 3 PUSH 5 7 2 4 6 | 1 3 5 1 3 PULL 1 5 1 3 5 | 7 2 4 6 7 And a standard 20-button concertina: PUSH 1 5 1 3 5 | 1 3 5 1 3 PULL 5 7 2 4 6 | 7 2 4 6 7 PUSH 3 5 1 3 5 | 1 3 5 1 3 PULL 2 7 2 4 6 | 7 2 4 6 7
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    Haggling

    I'm glad we've all proved you right, Jim, and I'd just like to thank you for explaining it too. I might not have understood otherwise. I wish I was as well off as Dirge, but it hasn't quite been explained well enough for me. I'm wondering if you (Jim and Dirge, especially, but everyone) feel there's a difference between those who sell new and used items? I think that distinction may even cross most cultural boundaries.
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    What is this?

    Yes, for all the reasons above and more, I'm also quite sure they're digital renderings. I didn't initially think of that (after all, it's a stock "photo" site, and I was mostly puzzling about the button layout). But once I looked with that in mind, it's pretty obvious.
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    The Peacock

    I got lost and could use a roadmap here...do you mean the Hayden/Wicki layout in general, or the layout with the Hayden slant, or without it? I feel with either the slant or without, it's fine for that style, but I don't play any other duet layout, so I can't compare. Recently I swapped back and forth playing tunes on both slanted and non-slanted Hayden/Wicki concertinas from Wakker. Even though I'm used to the slant, getting used to the non-slanted version was pretty quick. There were several advantages of the non-slanted layout, I felt, and only one tune where I felt the straight rows were awkward for something straightforward on the slanted layout. But I probably would have arranged that passage differently if my own instrument had the straight rows. Overall, after a good hour's messing about (and having played the Hayden layout for almost six years), I prefer the straight rows. But, it's not a huge difference, really.
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    "Bill Charlton's Fancy"--Billly Pig

    Well, here's Alistair Anderson playing it, from an out-of-print LP from the '70s that I have. http://www.JeffLeff.com/misc/BCharlton.mp3
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    McTeague graphic

    Well said, Jody, I think I'll be skipping this topic from now on too.
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    What we all look like - take 2

    This was all I meant... Please, no more reply nesting cluttering up this nice thread! By the way, it's a water tower in the background.
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    What we all look like - take 2

    However,I should like to know if Jeff normally plays his duet while sitting up a tree? Is this an obligatory form of practice? I think he's trying to branch out! Sometimes, we all have a desire to be leafed alone. I've just twigged, you're all barking. The root of the issue is that I need to get trunk more often. You poor sap. This thread is starting to lumber along nicely. I might be going out on a limb here, but, tree bien; unbeleafable. Wood you please stop! Oh lord ... what did I start? I hope someone's logging all of these comments? You will need to try harder than that to stem the flow. Wow, this thread is getting old...count the rings! To answer the question, I find when I learn a tune in a tree, it really sticks.
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    What we all look like - take 2

    I didn't bother to jump through hoops either, and didn't realize it was a drawing. In any case, here's a direct link which will take you straight to it: http://www.analogartistdigitalworld.com/2012/02/traditional-irish-music-session.html
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    My new band - Skitnik

    I've been playing with some folks lately, Balkan/Klezmer/Gypsy/World tunes. We're just starting to get a repetoire together and play live. Here's a traditional Albanian piece, I'm playing my Wakker Hayden (Wicki) duet concertina, and a tambourine with my foot. https://www.facebook.com/skitnikmusic
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    My new band - Skitnik

    Thanks! I should be clear though...my concertina has the Hayden slant. I haven't tried one with buttons parallel to the handrest (which Wakker calls "Wicki"), but I'd like to. Kaspar Wicki did not publish any recommendations for ergonomics, he just patented the general layout in 1896.
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    My new band - Skitnik

    Oops...can this be moved to the Videos & Music forum?
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    Stream to River flows

    Very nice! Builds up well.
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    Accompany Song

    Somewhat belatedly, I have to disagree with this statement. A counter-melody is only a different tune from the one you're singing. There's no reason why you can't do this on an anglo. The only limitations are those which apply to playing any tune on the anglo. True, it does depend on your singing key being anglo-friendly, but the same applies to simple chord arrangements. It does require a bit of mental effort to play one tune and sing another, but that applies to any instrument. I think Ceemonster was referring to playing a melody and countermelody simultaneously on the Anglo, not a countermelody to a line that one is singing. I think that's what Jody was talking about above too.
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    How to put photos in a post?

    I'd love to hear it too -- but I'd love to play it even more! I found it with a google search, it's apparently Jim Bayliss playing that large Wicki/Hayden duet.
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    How to put photos in a post?

    Flickr works if you use the .jpg address, not the address of the page. I right-clicked on the 640-sized image, and pasted it here: Then, for even more convenience, I clicked on the "insert link" icon (looks like a chain, just to the right of the happy yellow face) while the text for the image was still highlighted, and pasted in the URL that you originally posted for the image (its flickr page). That means if anyone clicks on the image above, they can see the picture on flickr in different sizes or whatnot.
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    How to put photos in a post?

    If you have the URL for an image, you don't even have to use an attachment. Just press the little tree icon above the box you're typing in when you post (two icons to the right of the yellow happy face). Paste in the URL of your image. Click "Insert Image." The image will show up in your post, as I've done below. This method does not use any of your storage space on concertina.net, so can be used for as many pictures as you want, of any size. Using the "Preview Post" button before you click "Add Reply" can help you make sure everything's formatted correctly.
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    Accompany Song

    For what it's worth (which may not be much), whenever I've seen a part labelled as "descant", it was always above the melody. Yes, this Wikipedia article says "Hymn tune descants are counter-melodies, generally at a higher pitch than the main melody." But also, "by the Renaissance, descant referred generally to counterpoint. Nowadays the counterpoint meaning is the most common."
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